O.O. and Zorak are watching a TV commercial for a collection of 70s soul music.
O.O.: "There's Tina Turner! She doesn't look that good. She looks great now, but that's just because she's in her 50s and still looks about the same. That's like Avery Dulles, whose views did not change much, but because the Church moved left he is now considered to be on the right."
Zorak: "Did you just compare Tina Turner to Avery Dulles?"
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